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will look at other hot topics affirmative action, same sex marriage, and voting rights. then, a new law in virginia may force many of the state's abortion clinics to shut down. and we will look and have local residents and virginia are organizing against a push by the nuclear and -- industry to lift the state's 3-year-long ban on uranium mining. >> we have spent 30 years on the fantasy of containment. there is no way to contain toxic or nuclear waste. he can come back to your drawing boards and come up with recommendations. but guess what? the community here and all the people down there river, all the way to north carolina and virginia beach are going to stop this. >> all that and more coming up. this is democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace report. i'm amy goodman. we are on the road in the capital of virginia, richmond. the official u.s. military death toll in afghanistan has passed the 2000 mark. more than 11 years into the war. in the latest attack, the suicide bomber killed 14 people, including three soldiers in the all the people down thereeastern khost r today. on
by melanie eversley later. you probably heard what happened in pennsylvania regarding their voter i.d. law and we will talk to her about that. we also want to take time to let you know that on our other channels on the weekend, book- tv and american history tv, we look at cities across the united states. our focus this time around is augusta, maine. not only do you get a sense of meeting the people and learning about individual cities and what makes them interesting, here is a little bit of a preview from tonight's program. [video clip] >> this is the first parish church in brunswick, maine. it is significant to the story of a uncle tom's cabin. in many ways, the story began here. it is here in pew #23 that harriet beecher stowe, by her account, saw the vision of uncle tom being whipped to to death. he is the title character, the hero of her 1852 novel," uncle tom's cabin." the story is that there is -- there was a slave, a good slave, sold by his first kind owner, mr. shelby, and he sold him to pay debts on his plantation through a series of misadventures, you might say, he ends up in the
law school in three parts of yale law school on the supreme court for corporately no other law schools in the united states. [laughter] besides those two. it is a bizarre and unfortunate fact i think. but those are help interesting facts about the supreme court. but, frankly, i don't think they're very important. here's an important fact about the supreme court. there are five republicans and four democrats. i will speak for somewhat longer, but this is basically all you need to know. [laughter] if there's a take away here, i've gotten to the point early. there are five republicans and four democrats, and that really tells you much of what you need to know. and it is true that the justices wear robes because they're supposed to look all alike, and this was, you know, supposed to give the perception that they're all pretty much the same. but just as on the other side of first street, the united states congress is deeply divided, according to party, so was the united states supreme court. and this is a moment of real partisan division at the supreme court. and that is exemplified in case
to bash banks and that is as phony as a $3 bill. also a judge strikes down pennsylvania's voter id law and the obama administration is telling companies it is okay to disregard the law when it comes to handing out pink slips in advance to big budget cuts. all three happening before the election. mitt romney has finally put meat on the bones of his tax reform idea. he floated the idea of a $17,000 cap on tax reform reduction. >> you could say everyone is going to get up to a $17,000 deduction. you can fill that bucket if you will and higher income people might have a lower number. >> this is brand new stuff. we have howard dean former vermont governor and candidate. and let's look at this for a second. what do you think? a $17,000 cap on tax deductions for everybody as a way of being fair because the upper end would pay more. what do you think? >> i don't have a problem with the eidea of deductions. here you are. you guys are talking about the private sector all the time. so, i've been convinced because of the high rate of canadian home ownership, i'm not convinced of doing away with ch
of the supreme court, certainly intellect, experience, obs vance of the rule of law and precedent. but the supreme court is the final word of what is the law of the land and so therefore i don't want to see more who say that discrimination against women and discrimination based on gender is not protected against under the constitution. when i go by the supreme court on my way to work every day over the mantle it says equal justice under law. it does not say equal justice for some people in america and not for others. and as it relates to row v. wade, i support that. i support a woman's right to choose. my opponent i don't know which view he has. last year he was prolife, now he's pro-choice. >> senator business and industry complain that the 2010 fair act will be expensive and cut into profits and slow the economic recovery. how do you respond to critics who argue that the economic burden of implementing this policy will wind up costing even more american jobs? >> first of all, the reality is what did he have before the law, double premium increases, unsustainable for a family who
over the new health care law may not be over. we have the details on that. a new study says secondhand smoke is killing tens of thousands each year including hundreds of infants in this country. that is all ahead unless breaking news changes everything. this is "studio b." first from fox at 3:00 in new york city, intention preparations underway with less than 72 hours before the first presidential debate. both campaigns ready for a high stakes night that could be pivotal. polls show the race is neck and neck but president obama has open up leads in self key swing states. one is colorado. that is where the first presidential debate is on wednesday night. both have been trying to lower expectations thinking if voters do not expect too much whatever you get could be impressive. president obama is at a disadvantage in the expectations game. there a new abc news-washington post poll showing the majority of voters think he will win the debate. only 29 percent expect romney will be on top. ed henry is in nevada this afternoon where the president is preparing for the debates. john roberts, fir
for the election. the law sparked a whole bunch of protests who say it alienates citizens. if they rule against the law it will be put on hold until after the election. >> check out the white house. this is what it looked like in honor of breast cancer awareness month. across the bond in london buckingham palace turning pink, too. those are your 5@5:00. >>> talking politics now president obama and mitt romney have the first debate tomorrow in november. >>> we have a new poll that is out but it hasn't done much for the politics the national average for the polls. it was up 3 and a half points. the national picture remains very, very close. one of the swing states is the scene of the debate. he got last minute campaigning he got a last minute endorsement from quarterback john elway. he is preparing for a much more critical stage on wednesday. >> these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward for america that we would choose. american people are going to have to make their choice as to what kind of debate they want. it will be a conversation with the american peopl
warnings out. they say they are hypothetical. lockheed martin says it is the law. we must send the out the notices. the administration says if you don't send out the warnings, then we'll indem anyify you, we'll cover lawsuits that might result if there are layoffs. so the taxpayer is on the hook for not sending out these warning notices. it's pure politics. martha: it's unbelievable, frankly. either we are going to have these defense cut layoffs as a result of sequestration because nobody in washington seems to be able to come together on a budget deal. don't they have to face the ramifications of that and say we are going to have these defense cuts and that means we have to do due diligence and let these people know the perhaps they work on are in jeopardy? >> these cuts in the defense department are threatened as of january 1. it's the law, it's written in stone that you have to warn defense department employees and the contractors that layoffs may be coming. that's the law. the administration is getting around this law with a different interpretation to indemnify lockheed martin. it
law after law after law to limit your right to vote. voter i.d., voter registration, early voting. the republicans want less people voting in our democracy, not more. they're trying to roll back the clock on more than our century's worth of progress in civil rights. now the tide is turning. inch by inch, state by state, we've been reclaiming our rights and turning back the wave of voter suppression. we saw it when the justice department stepped in to block the laws in texas, south carolina and florida. we saw it when governors in six states all but one were democrats, vetoed voter i.d. laws. they were champions of democracy to do so. and we saw it when state and federal courts rejected laws in eight states, including today's major ruling in pennsylvania. this morning a judge blocked pennsylvania's controversial voter i.d. from going into effect before the november election. after it was revealed that hundreds of thousands of voters face the real pocket that they would not be allowed to vote. but now this unjust law will not be in effect on election day in this critical swing state
at the boston herald to tell us about the health care law that governor romney shepherded in when he was governor of massachusetts in 2006. and later on, social media and the internet and how they are affecting campaign 2012. we will be right back. ♪d >> ♪ ♪>> ♪ >> this is the first parish church in brunswick, maine. its significance to the story of an uncle tom's cabin is in many ways the story began here. in is in this new number 23 that harriet beecher stowe saw a vision of uncle tonoose being whipped to death. all cocom, as you probably know, is the title character, bureau "uncleher 1853 not vel cabin."ptainm's if anyone in the north or to aid or abet a fugitive slave, they themselves would be imprisoned or fine for breaking the law. the bill was seen as a compromise between the north and south to avoid war. so that was part of what the novel was trying to do, to say i'm a christian and i'm against slavery, as was most of new england and it's my right to help a slave to find himself or herself in our borders, we have the right to do that because we're not a slave state an
against that state's new voter i.d. law for now. a judge in the past few hours blocked the law from goalkeeper into effect. judge simpson ordered the sat not to enforce the voter i.d. requirement in this year's election, but it will go into full effect next year. opponents of the law say it would hurt voter turnover, especially among minorities and the leeld he who are likely to vote for democrats in that state. it was in june that a top state republican lawmaker predicted the law would help governor romney. >> which is going to allow governor romney to win the state of pennsylvania, done. >> and joining us now, judith brown, diana's co-director of the advancement project, a civil rights organization that filed the lawsuit. thank you for your time. we played that state lawmaker who said if that law was in effect in pennsylvania, he felt that governor romney would win that state, done. the polling shows opposite. nevertheless there was a concern. let's talk about the split decision. the judge is blocking it for now, but what happens next? >> well, you know, this is a big victory for
, a discussion about google operations and antitrust laws. >> almost 20 years ago, we broadcast one of the most controversial stories in our 44 years on the air. it was called yes, but is it art? i was accused of being a philistia, someone lacking the esthetic ability to appreciate contemporary art. in those 20 years, works that i question worth hundreds of thousands of dollars are now worth hundreds of millions. >> what made everybody so that 20 years ago? >> i discovered something that i had absolutely could barely believe -- that when you question someone's taste in art, thanmore personal politics, religion, sexual preference. it is something that goes to the very soul when you say you b ought that? > sunday at 8:00 on c-span's q&a. now, an american enterprise institute panel discussion examining whether google is violating antitrust laws. topics included the market for internet search, and an analysis of google's business model. pedal trade commission chairman john leibovitz has said that the ftc plans to make a decision on whether to take legal action against google by the end of this year
, it is not necessarily in the exact timing or form that the current law baseline looks out right now, but sticking with the essential elements. those of you who know me know that i am quite fond of the current law baseline. in the past i have said what we need to do is to follow a strict pay-as-you-go. i am tired of exempting this and ignoring that. let's stick to strict pay-as- you-go. pay-go noit to exceptions. i will just modify that today and say instead of pay-ago, is re-go. recycle as you go. set targets that congress says, by this date, we will have achieved this goal. the budget committees and the budget process to enforce this. there is something called budget conciliates -- reconciliation where they've direct the budget and other entities with jurisdiction over the program to come up with reforms, for spending targets. the announcement we need is what tells us whether we want to use this can like this, or do we melt it down and reshape its four different parts of the whole system. if we want to give tax cuts low, we need to broaden the base. and what are some different trade-offs? how mu
- in-law had surgery that it would be a good idea if an older person lived on pain pills instead of having their problem taken care of. another thing, and egos around the country and talks, he looks almost like the rabble-rousers' when he goes around the country, it looks almost like a rabble rouser. host: gene is an independent. good morning at. -- jean. caller: i will not vote for paul ryan. i have been watching -- i watch c-span a lot and the commentaries on the other political channels. he does not ring true to me. i had been watching before he was on the ticket and have been following it for years with john boehner and his congress. i will not vote for anybody of john boehner's crowd. host: ok. a little bit more insight into the polling. a rasmussen poll fromepo the weekend -- is more from the vice-president on the weekends and florida. [video clip] >> they're spending a lot of time telling you what barack obama and joe biden are against and what we have done. the attack everything. the truth of the matter is that nowhere is it more clear what they would do that in medicare.
and that compliance with the law is not optional. the man who heads the firm shall accused of voting fraud, is defending his firm tonight. senior correspondent eric shawn has that story. >> bret: the head of the company at the center of the voter fraud allegations says thinks firm will be vindicated. >> i think we did a very good job. >> a republican operative claims a handful of exworkers for violating company policy and the law. his company, strategic allied consulting is being investigated by florida authorities. >> when law enforcement looks into that situation, what they'll find our company had a systemic effort of quality control at that looked for people trying to cheat the system. when we found them we fired them and we have a long paper trail a handful of people we caught cheating the system were fired and turned over to investigators for prosecution. >> of 5,000 workers, he says that fewer than 10 did something wrong. out of florida out of 50,000 forms only about 150 have raised problems and in north carolina out of 15,000 forms, only 5 were flagged. he says his firm also registe
limited. a duty for liberty and right to keep me free and uphold the rule of law to ensure the system if we suffer injury in the physical sense or through fraud. the government can't keep us safe and it's so limited they should not be telling me that i have to buy health insurance or i will get taxed more. what should the role of government be in your life we are asking you in this morning's journal. it states in the constitution of the federal government is to do. 18 enumerations, the rest are reserved for the state's and the people. next call, jeff in texas. good morning to you, sir. >> caller: that would be kevin in washington. >> host: good morning. you are on the air. go ahead. >> caller: i believe that if the proper role of the federal government is to protect individual liberties we are supposed to have rules against that, against fraud, against the injured. but the problem is the federal government has gone way beyond that. it seems like they want to redistribute what people have gained through their liberties and freedoms and once you do that, you are violating people's liber
ahead, why is the obama administration telling companies to break the law? how can the president justify this? making matters worse, the president is promising to pay the legal bills of the companies breaking the law with, you guessed it, taxpayer money. this story is likely to unglue you. former governor haley barbour is outraged. he's here and next. also you must hear what these two men are saying. senator john mccain and governogovernor chris christie. could the obama secret weapon be used against them? a new twist that will you have talking. stick around. nnouncer ] how do u make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ or help doctors turn billions of bytes of shared information... ♪ into a fifth anniversary of remission? ♪ whatever your business challenge, dell has the technology and services to help you solve it. droid does. and does it launch apps by voice while learning your voice ? launch cab4me. droid does. keep left at the fork. does it do turn-by-turn navigation ? droid does. with verizon, america's largest 4g lte network, and motorola, droid does.
. >>> a pennsylvania judge will let voters go to the polls without photo i.d., upholding a controversial state law that requires identification but stopping it from taking effect until after elections. voters in pennsylvania will be asked for i.d. but will still be able to vote if they don't have it. democrats are touting the ruling as a win for minority and low-income voters who they say might otherwise have been disenfranchised by that law. the raynes claim the law was common sense reform. according to the brennan center for justice which opposes voting law restrictions, 19 states have passed laws or executive actions since 2011 that impact voter turnout. of those, 14 are already in effect, including the one in pennsylvania. >>> now to business. home prices up 4.6% in august from a year ago. the largest year-over-year gain in six years. august marked the sixth consecutive month home prices rose in the united states. let's go to cnbc's jeff cutmore, live in london. >> good morning. you know how the saying goes, if there's a wealth effect in the housing market you get the trickle down. that's what
. there were people in legal law firm conference rom, they could get an internet connection. people in starbucks where they could get an internet connection. people working at the kitchen tables around town. and all of a sudden, right around april 1st. bestart moving to the headquarter. this is literally six week aways from the announcement. and this just this big space. bigger than the room. far bigger than the room. three or four times of the size of the room. it was a whole floor of the high-rise building in chicago, and it was just kind of remarkable. we didn't have everybody in. we were slowly bringing people in. literally we were still getting the servers up. we had telephones ringing and people try to answer phone calls. we had e-mail coming in to our e-mail address. we didn't have a system to receive e nail a real way that you would want. we had many coming many. we didn't have budgets. and we had, you know, we had constituency leaders calling our political department because they wanted to have time with the candidate, we had our fundraisers, who had to raise money with the
is the lack of enforcement of u.s. law. along the border we had two people shot yesterday. one man died. with everything from president obama on june 15, with the dream act, a few days ago governor brown decided to give drivers' licenses to illegals. i think we are creating a lot of jeopardy and risk for our people along the border. a piecet's look at about immigration and governor mitt romney, softening his stance on immigration and other issues according to usa today, trying to keep conservative appeal as he courts undecided voters. he told one denver newspaper that he would not revoke temporary visas in what appears to be his latest attempt to soften his tone on key issues. he told the post in an interview that those who qualified for deferred action programs would be permitted to stay for the allotted term. of course, candidate mitt romney, here is what the article goes on to say. his decision to take a nuanced position on the issues two weeks after he dodged a question on the issue. the last caller also mentioned the death of a border agent. here is a story on that. host: we are as
be a violation of the law. >> joined by our pentagon correspondent, barbara starr. you've been digging into this for new information. you say as early as april, the united states sent special forces into benghazi for a specific reason. >> they did, indeed, carol. what we've learned is that a very small team of special forces commandos were sent to that benghazi compound. this was back in april. if you think back a u.n. -- united nations convoy in the region had been attacked. growing security concerns at that time back in april, about what was going on in that region in eastern libya. so, the u.s. sent a team of about four special forces, commandos to the benghazi compound. they did a security assessment. what could be done to improve security at the facility. and they recommended apparently, we are told, a couple of things that seem fairly minor in retrospect. sand bagging some positions so libyan forces who were there, contractors, essentially, could help fight back if the place came under attack and also were training for some of that private security force that was hired for the co
of the great columns of the democratic convention. 2009. this is where he signed the stimulus in law. tonight, he puts it all on the line trying to make his case for a second term. bret? >> bret: ed, thank you. experts will tell you the challenger often gets a slight bump in the polls after the first debate by standing next to the president. romney is hoping for that and more as he takes half the spotlight tonight. chief political correspondent carl cameron has that part of the story. >> reporter: romney prepared for weeks. 57% for the latest gallup poll think the president will win the debates to only 33% for romney on this evening main topic the economy economy, romney has an edge. 50% say things will improve if he becomes president to 35% who say they will get worse. if the president is re-elected, only 48% say it will get better to 40% who think it will worsen. romney released a new ad straight to camera today foreshadowing tonight's principal message. >> too many americans are struggling, living paycheck to paycheck. more americans live in poverty than when president obama took office. >
. it was the law passed unanimously by congress signed by president clinton in 1993 to restore the scope of religious freedom protection that existed under the free exercise clause which we were railing against. withstand back in place, struck down by the states in 1997 but the federal government, mandated by federal law, we already had two early decisions from district courts involving private plaintiffs or for profit plaintiffs and the issue to address the merits, there were procedural issues because of ongoing regulatory process that might create a sort of interim step in terms of going up and down the court but that actually is going to get resolved between now and august 1st, 2013. the administrative process will be done and the courts will invariably go straight and you will get merit decisions uniformly by the end of next year. >> those that depend on what the administration does and who wins? >> not really. what the administration has put into play is a piece of the problem. and also the constraints they put upon themselves in addressing that limited issue indicates that there is
might address that gap. [laughter] there are six products of harvard law school and three products of yale law school on the supreme court. there are apparently no other law schools in the united states. [laughter] besides those two. no, it is a bizarre and unfortunately fact, i think. but those are, i hope, interesting facts about the supreme court. but frankly, i don't think they're very important. here's an important fact. about the supreme court. there are five republicans and four democrats. i will speak for somewhat longer, but this is basically all you need to know. [laughter] if be there's a takeaway here, i have gotten to the point early. there are five republicans and four democrats, and that really tells you much of what you need to know. and it is true that the justices wear robes because they're supposed to look all alike, and they're supposed to look, you know, it's supposed to give the perception that they're all pretty much the same, but just as on the other side of first street the united states congress is deeply divided according to party, so is the united states
be notified as required by law that they could be out of work. mike emanuel is live in washington. this really affects all of us. if all of those employees are unemployed that really can move our unemployment rate and the job situation in this country, mike. what exactly is the law and what is being done right now? >> reporter: jenna the law is call the warn act which is supposed to provide 60 days notice ahead of mass layoffs, if those pentagon cuts could take effect. the obama administration says don't send out the notices right before election day, and if you, government contractor gets sued we'll pay your legal bills. i asked an expert if that is legal. >> the administration has said that you don't have to send out these notices, because we haven't given you the specific information as to what plans, what projects will be cut. the o & b was supposed to produce that information. have you a rather bizarre game of chicken, on this occasion, however it will be thousands of workers that go over the cliff. but ultimately it comes down to the administration saying we think we going to win. >> rep
't even know that there is such laws that encourage outsourcing. he says that if it's true he must need a new account stand. [ laughter ] now, we know for sure it was not the real mitt romney because he seems to be doing just fine with his current accountant. >> the romney campaign fired back, quote: president obama offered no defense of his record and no vision for the future. president obama simply offered more false attacks and renewed his call for job-killing tax hikes. earlier today, the president's senior campaign advisor david axelrod said this about the debate. the president's never satisfied with his performance. he is always challenging himself. and he will review it if he wants to make changes in the next debate, he will do so. what he was satisfied with was that he went and told the american people the truth as i mentioned polls show most americans governor romney won the debate. you can see it's not even close in this cnn survey. but almost half the viewers also said the debate did not effect how they will vote in november. these overnight surveys are instant, emotional re
, that's what we did. [applause] the new health care law helps make sure you don't have to worry about going broke just because you or a loved one gets sick. insurance companies can no longer put lifetime limits on your care. or jack up your premiums without reason. or drop your coverage when you need it most. they can no longer discriminate against children with pre-existing conditions. and soon they will no longer be able to deny you coverage based on pre-existing conditions like breast cancer or charge you more for the same care just because you're a woman. this law has already allowed nearly seven million young adults under the age of 26 to sign up and stay on their parents' health care plan. it's already saved millions of seniors on medicare hundreds of dollars on their prescription medicine. and millions of americans have actually gotten a rebate from their insurance company if that company -- you got one? [applause] i wanted to say -- i mean, she was a supporter. but i didn't know about -- [laughter] you get a rebate if the insurance company spent too much on demitch costs and c
at this this morning. alabama also has virtually the identical stand your ground law that florida has, so do you know that the officer ms case can probably say he was he felt that he was in danger of his life and he was standing his ground and shooting. i'm betting as this proceeds, you may see that law that we've heard so much about rear itsingly head now in alabama. >> that is really interesting to note. now, cnn, paul, spoke with the victim's mother in this case. she is, understandably, in shock. when things do settle down for her, would she have any legal recourse against the school? >> well, it's hard to say. obviously if her son was heavily intoxicated and was trying to attack a police officer, that's going to be a -- that's going to be a tough case to win. however, these campuses have alcohol problems. virtually every campus in america today has problems with intoxicated kids, and they have to develop policies to deal with it. now, this particular university, by the way, is a dry campus. you're not allowed to drink at this campus, even if you're over 21. i noticed from some local news reports
if they use the name of a law enforcement agency. it is not legitimate and if it happened to you, your computer han compromised and you want to make sure it is virus-free before you use it again. >> for more information, go to our website, wusa9.com. we will link you to the latest from the fbi. anita. >> american university is getting the word out about recent groping assaults near campus. they happened along massachusetts avenue between the birkshire apartments. >> reporter: campus police are alerting the community about these incidents. there have been four since september 24. all involving women here of students of american university. >> it is scary when you know something is happening. >> don't want it happening to any of my friends and ashamed it had to happen in the first place. >> reporter: students are on alert. >> we like to think that on college campuses, it's more liberal and that we are safe because we are in this close community, but it puts things back into perspective. >> women told police they were groped by a man in a hooded sweatshirt. each incident was in th
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biggest new law? answers are coming up next. gerri: there is one missing word from the obama campaign during this race. it is obamacare. but why is the president running from legislation that he desperately push for. with more on this, kimberly stossel, welcome to the show. it is weird that what is supposed to be the signature legislation of the president is nowhere in his statement. when you make of that? >> i have heard you just mentioned, and it is true, that more than half of americans disapprove of the law. it's a thicker visions are even more unpopular, it seems like the individual mandate, things like taxes on medical devices, so what you see the white house doing, they don't want to talk about this. what you see them doing is very few provisions in the bill that remain somewhat popular out there. republicans have kind of let them get away with that. gerri: they are both strange bedfellows. they came together to get obamacare put in place. recently, you talked about aarp, but i don't know about you, but you see them take over these bucolic streets, beautiful. but aarp is highly
law school graduates, romney also was a harvard mba, will square off and try to tell americans that they're very relatable. [laughter] we'll look forward to that. all right, chris, thank you. >> thank you. megyn: well, these debates, i mean, they're great theater for the american public, and they really do help a lot of americans decide whether it's just a visceral reaction or i like that guy better, they help americans decide. and a lot of the times it's the gaffes that turn people against the candidates. these campaigns, they're searching for the one defining moment, but of course they're also hoping it won't be an awkward one that sinks their campaign. recall 1992 when president george h.w. bush checks his watch during a debate with then-candidate bill clinton. the gesture gave voters the impression that he was impatient and uninterested. during the 2000 presidential debates, al gore got up in governor george w. bush's grill. look. [laughter] just a classic moment where he was invading his personal space a little, and, boy, did he take some flak. mr. bush gave him a nod and
that the republicans haven't been able to find very much voter fraud to justify all the laws so they decided to create some themselves. that's one of the sort of terrible down sides of this. if they use this as an excuse to e say, we need these tough voter i.d. laws because you made the essential point. there were two broad points of view on this. one is we're so worried about fraud we're going to make it really hard for a lot of people to vote or that the whole process is supposed to make it easy for people to cast ballots. and that the worst thing they did was to destroy people's voter registration forms. but i don't remember anything like this except acorn. and i think this is where we're going to have to ask our conservative friends. they went nuts over acorn, the progressive group having bad registrations. acorn itself, by the way, had called the attention of voter registrars to the fraud themselves. they disciplined themselves. and yet this was a big scandal and acorn lost a lot of money and had to go out of business. why isn't this the same thing for conservatives given what they did? >> the th
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